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Primoz wrote:

Again, sponsor dropping is not something that can be given as a punishment.

Also, i think one of the drugs was found in a nutritional supplement from Ryno there was a picture of Graves mixing it or something.

Any link with Ryno power is rubbish... though what does make me laugh is check out their Instagram post from November and who commented... wasn’t this around the point at which they said in an interview they hadn’t spoken to RP!

I say it again... those two are full of shit



Primoz wrote:

Again, sponsor dropping is not something that can be given as a punishment.

Also, i think one of the drugs was found in a nutritional supplement from Ryno there was a picture of Graves mixing it or something.

carll wrote:

Sponsors can elect to suspend sponsorship. Has happened to track and field athletes such as Tyson Gay who failed drug tests. Companies have some responsibility in cleaning up the sport (and not supporting drug cheats) IMO. No, the photo with Graves is definitely not Ryno Power. The supplement is on page 5 of this thread and it's called "Alphamine" by PEScience. It's a fat burner - pretty odd thing to take in the middle of an enduro race, no?

Yeah, they can be dropped, but the governing body can't mandate that the sponsors drop the athletes as part of the punishment. That's what I'm saying. Dropping or not is a decision completely in the hands of the sponsor.

EDIT: at the risk of poking the wasp nest, Jared and Richie training together and failing the drug test together does nothing to raise the look or probability of this being a mistake.

Often times as is the same in many companies, there are “morality” clauses built into contracts. If an employee (sponsored rider in our case) does something inappropriate (doping), the employee can be fired or their sponsorship revoked.

The sponsor that surprises me the most is red bull. Aren’t they trying to portray a clean image, so standing by Rude directly contradicts this....

KMBNT wrote:

One thing to mention is that till the moment of Richie and Jared testing positive EWS was on a rapid rise with Sam switching to race proper courses, Martin showing that he soon will be the best gravity rider , increasing "awareness" of how gnarly the enduro racing has become, in stark contrast to perception of UCI DH and taking more and more from sponsorship pie. With the Richie and Jared debacle I think the momentum will be lost. Regardless of what EWS does, it will lose and will lose badly, not only as a business/race series, but also as community/riders as well. Fans seem to be split into to camps. One regards both Richie and Jared as crooks, which are to be banned for life, as Roskopp said in one of his very early interviews. No legal and PR (Pinkbike "interview" anyone) maneuvering from either EWS or both guys will convince them. The second group is trying to play down the situation and are 100% behind their heros. If EWS bans/suspends them former will be satisfied, but the latter will be seeing red... and vice versa. To add insult to injury one of the top racers comes to social media and brags how he saw EWS top riders use all kind of strange substances in Colombia, but he didn't snitch on them... just started to train harder... You just can't make this s**t up. What was he trying to accomplish, besides scoring bro points with his fans? This certainly will impact how EWS is perceived by sponsors and what share of the pie EWS and riders get. The question just is by how much it will shrink. From what I see it seems that EWS will try to sweep it under the carpet. The change of "rules" to create loop holes, rumors that Richie will start the first round etc suggest that. Also the video of Richie overtaking Damian on a steep climb, which bares many similarities to Armstrong's performance vs. Ulrich, and was used by Jerome and others as a clue that Richie's performance was suspicious, got purged from youtube. Personally I look forward to how Chris Ball is going to deal with fans heckling "Doped!" on stages. This will be rather entertaining :D @ EBlackwell ad point 1.

I got prescribed Ventolin after coming out of a severe case of flue just before a week long bike trip... And I used it on a few rides after a long, heavy climb... this shit is a magic in a bottle, it's like having a new set of lungs just before the descent. Try it! You will understand why it's a banned substance :D might got hooked though

I missed this to quagmire of shit being vomited by others on here... but KMBNT well put and sums up the shit situation those twats have put the sport in!

From the EWS to athletes via email this morning, "I write to you as a member of the Enduro World Series (EWS) or a Team Manager of an Official EWS Team. As we reach the final days before the 2019 season begins I’m acutely aware that the anti-doping case that hit the headlines in 2018 still remains a question for all of you. I therefore feel you deserve some information on the position of the EWS on this matter. I am aware that there is anger and upset among the riders that the situation is not resolved. Although I understand your frustration, and your feelings too, this does not change the position of the EWS, which is bound by anti-doping regulations, legal due process and athlete rights. The key aspect of this situation is that the EWS is 100% removed from all anti-doping cases. As it should be. We hosted the French Anti-Doping Agency (AFLD) to carry out their own tests in Olargues in 2018 and we will work with any findings they formally reach following those tests. But, the details of all open cases remain entirely confidential and between only two parties; the riders who were tested, and the agency that tested them. Therefore, we have as little insight and influence on the case as you do. This may seem strange, but it is correct, both ethically and legally and must be like this in order to maintain complete impartiality and neutrality during all anti-doping investigations in all sport, from the Olympics right down to EWS. We await a formal decision as much as you do. And we will not be able to determine any steps until that decision has been made, in this case by the AFLD. We are increasingly asked if riders under investigation will be allowed to race in our series, and the answer is yes. Why? Because regardless of your or our personal opinions, the EWS makes all decisions based on fact and evidence and therefore until a formal decision is reached by the ruling party in the case, we have no official information to follow. It is by following due process, and treating all cases in the same way, that we maintain the sport’s legitimacy in the long term. We will never treat any case any differently to another. This is not showing any sympathy towards those in question, it is simply to maintain athlete rights and the high ethical standards we believe our sport deserves and each one of you would expect should you find yourselves in a similar situation. While a case remains open and we have no notifications of any mandatory suspensions on any riders, the only way a rider will not take the start of an EWS is if they impose a voluntary ban on themselves. The EWS will respect any decisions reached by the parties in question until an official decision is made by the agency who carried out the tests. We truly understand your upset and understand this is an emotive topic for us all, but during these times I ask only that both the riders under investigation, and all other riders in our sport respect each other, and, like the EWS, respect the formal processes in place. Yours in sport,

Chris Ball"

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